Jabulani Khumalo: Arrest the untouchable MKP “thugs”!

Following talks between President Cyril Ramaphosa and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the South African men sold into combat in Russia are being processed for their return. In his latest interview with BizNews, the real founder of MKP, Jabulani Khumalo - who has been supporting the families - calls for the arrest of those among the “hijackers” of his party for their alleged involvement in the trafficking “…we are saying to the government of South Africa they must punish these people because they are known who they are. There are five that went to court, but it's not all of them….I don't know why they are still not behind bars…And they are still continuing to make a lot of problems within the communities because they are thugs.” Slamming former President Jacob Zuma, Khumalo says: “Jacob Zuma is allowing all these shenanigans because remember, the government has allowed him for very long to fool the government to abuse our money in going to courts just for him to stay away from jail. And because of that, thinks he's above the law…”.Sign up for your early morning brew of the BizNews Insider to keep you up to speed with the content that matters. The newsletter will land in your inbox at 5:30am weekdays. Register here.Support South Africa’s bastion of independent journalism, offering balanced insights on investments, business, and the political economy, by joining BizNews Premium. Register here.If you prefer WhatsApp for updates, sign up to the BizNews channel here..Watch here.Listen here.Edited transcript of the interview.Chris Steyn (00:01.643)The families of some of the men sold into combat in Russia are hoping that they will be home soon. I speak to MKP founder, Mr. Jabulani Khumalo, who has been supporting the families. Welcome, Sir. Jabulani Khumalo (00:18.658)Good morning, thanks for inviting me to your studios and greetings to all the South Africans. Chris Steyn (00:30.805)Sir, now that President Cyril Ramaphosa has spoken to Russian President Vladimir Putin, what is DIRCO telling the families? Jabulani Khumalo (00:46.838)Thanks for that question. I must firstly praise the Minister of Foreign Affairs for International Relations for his commitment in working with us. When we asked him to intervene, even when it was weekends, when he was busy, we were able to get hold of him and say, Minister, we have this issue or this information about these people. Can you please intervene? He will definitely do that. We must appraise him for his good work and his department in natural effect for swift response when there was an outcry about our men that were sold to a war by certain thugs within the MKP. We want to praise also the President of South Africa and the President of Russia for their swift response or intervention into this matter. Because there were lots of issues that we were getting when our men there were encountering during this set time on them and said times on their families in South Africa because they were reporting the difficulties they are going through. And you know when you have a wife, you've got the kids and you are in a difficult situation where you have to expose what is happening to you, how much more on your kids, how they feel, how your wife feels knowing that you are not in a position that is conducive for you to be there. So it was very painful and it touched my heart, it touched the leadership of the real MK to say that no, we can't keep quiet when our men are getting serious injuries there. Jabulani Khumalo (02:54.593)They getting serious matters that were against their lives. So we said, let us stand up. I started by sending my team to Durban to start demonstrations where our one of our leaders, Mrs. Ngubane, that march. It was not a march, but a demonstration outside the Durban City Hall. Then from then, we got more invitation from the parents and the families of the men that left. Because remember, there are those who are married who left, and there are those that are still unmarried. So their parents were crying, and these ones, their wives were crying, and children. So we had to listen on both of them to say, we are with you here in South Africa. But at the same time, we will try our best to be with your men outside there as much as it is far, but we will try our best to find someone to assist us there. We did that. And we did it very successfully. I must say, again, it was not only us, but the department itself from the government side was also helping, trying to say now we've got this, then they will intervene. On the last week, the parents and the families of the men asked for that interview or a press briefing in Durban. I sent some of our leaders to go and attend there. We had three men, three people there that were standing in for the real MK, not the MK that was the hijackers, to say we are there, we are with them, we will be with them, we are not going to leave them anyway. So the meeting went well and we are now, we can now announce that after the meeting of the two presidents, President Cyrill Ramaphosa and President Vladimir Putin, Jabulani Khumalo (05:16.053)…the men that are in that fighting area, they are now in one space waiting to be taken back to the country. Remember, when you are in another country, are processes that you must follow. So they are busy doing those processes. The Russian government, we must thank them and we must give them the praise because rhe way they've tried to work on this, they were not involved, that we must say. They were not involved in taking or buying these men to their country. But a certain company that did that. But now that there were problems, we had to cry to them. And they hear, they heard our cry, and now they are preparing our men to come back. We must thank the President of Russia and his Cabinet for a good heart that they have to allow our men to come back even though the agent is saying, you owe us. We are saying, the government of Russia has agreed to bring our men back. Whoever they paid to these agents, they must deal with that individual. They know those people. They know which account they put the money into. They must go after them. If they want us to have to assist them to investigate who those people, if they're forgotten, we will assist them to remember who those people are. And if they need to find a way to deal with them, we will assist them. We don't want to see these people getting away with this, they must be punished. And we are saying to the government of South Africa, they must punish these people because they are known who they are. There are five that went to court, but it's not all of them. There are others, and I don't know why they are still not behind bars because they are supposed to be behind bars. And they are still continuing to make a lot of problems within the communities. Jabulani Khumalo (07:31.724)because they are thugs. They are not leaders of MK. They are hijackers of the MK party. And people must understand that the hijackers will always be hijackers and thugs. And we don't want them amongst the leadership of uMkhonto weSizwe because they have ruined the name. They've put, they've dragged the name of MK party into a mud because they are mad. They are not supposed to be within the families of our country. They are not supposed to be amongst our people in South Africa because their mind belongs in a bush. They are not supposed to be running around. The country must punish those people. And for the police to take long when they know, I don't know why they're waiting for. What are they waiting for? They're supposed to have arrested these people. Because they've made, they've done something devastating to the country. Why are they still amongst the people running around driving your X3s and all the big cars running around intimidating people just because they've got a name? We can't stand that nonsense. It must end and it must be washed away. And we are calling to the President of this country to take a drastic decision on these people, they must be arrested. And our members on the ground, they are tired of this. I must say again that these thuggery activities within the party of MK is continuous. You know, just before the SONA, another… was put was put into a Parliament as a Chief Whip of the MK Party. One thug again added to another thugs. What are you expecting? You are saying MK Party is in the Parliament to stand for the people's views. Instead of that, they are putting thugs. This woman that has been appointed as a Chief Whip….Read more:.Jabulani Khumalo - Zuma is “trying to build his own military wing”.Jabulani Khumalo (09:55.072)It's there on your YouTube. You can go and check. She has a number of cases against her…within the party itself, the thugs found her guilty of those misconducts. But today, before the Parliament, she went and was sworn in before the Speaker of the Parliament and became a Chief Whip of the MKP. That is nonsense. That is totally, I don't know how I can call it, but this woman must be out of the Parliament. She can't lead in the Parliament…She must leave. The government must assist us because the people that are in Russia right now went there because of such people who do not think, who do not have minds to think, who just do things as they wish because they believe that they are untouchable. The government must act on this one. We are not going to tolerate it and we are not going to be silent. We are going to run after them. And we are not going to wait for anybody else. If we have to go to court and get them removed, we will do that as early as possible. We are not weak, you are going to wait on it. Chris Steyn (11:27.389)Sir, what has former President Jacob Zuma been up to since his letter to the Russian Defence Minister was apparently just ignored? Jabulani Khumalo (11:38.338)Well, you know people, are, I think they need some education in terms of country to country relations. Jacob Zuma is a former President of this country, but he behaves like a normal person on the street who has never been in a government leadership. He behaves like he's dumb. Jacob Zuma is allowing all these shenanigans because remember, the government has allowed him for very long to fool the government to abuse our money in going to courts just for him to stay away from jail. And because of that, thinks he's above the law and he's above the country's people. So he can do whatever he wants to do. He sent a letter to Russia thinking that he's still the master. But Russia showed him he's no longer a master in Russia. And it's not only that that happened. It's quite a lot that has happened. Zuma knows now that his time is finished. His time of...telling lies to us is finished. Yes, he's got that charisma to make people loves him. He can stay with that charisma, but he's no longer recognised as a leader, as a perfect leader, as a leader that you can trust. Not anymore. Chris Steyn (13:23.819)Sir, has there been any contact between Mr. Zuma and yourself of late? Jabulani Khumalo (13:29.879)I will never contact him. It will never happen. I'm not prepared to talk to him. I'm not going to talk to a thug. I’m not going to talk to a person that doesn't think anymore who thinks he's above everybody. We'll meet in court. The court will then decide on this matter. But me and him, there is no negotiations that will happen. Chris Steyn (13:52.021)So what is the next step in your efforts or your long battle and the legal battles to reclaim MKP from Mr. Zuma? Jabulani Khumalo (14:02.871)We are going to court very soon. The Supreme Court of Appeal will meet there and I will put my case, he will put his case, but we'll see who's going to win at the end of the day. But I will never talk to him. Chris Steyn (14:19.915)What is happening on the ground with MKP, the Zuma faction of MKP? Jabulani Khumalo (14:27.617)He's finished that. They are fighting amongst themselves because they don't have a leader before them. They just do as they please. And you've seen him going around these days trying to fool the people of KZN. Yes, they like his charisma, but he will never win. He's going to be out of the MK Party very soon and with his daughter, with his son that he has brought in. I'm very sorry for the boy because he's been doing very well without this crazy man. But he brought himself into this shenanigan or this foolish leadership of Zuma. He should have stayed away and continued with his party, but he came to be part of the foolishness of his father, then like father like son. So if he wants to be like that, it's like that. Let him do so. But will meet Zuma in court. When Zuma is out, he will be out and he will remember his party. Because I'm not going to allow thugs to continue and work with me when the party is back. We've got the leaders, the real leaders of uMkhonto we Sizwe, that were hijacked the party from and were thrown out. They are coming back. And we will show them that what, how to run the party. Not like, the crazy… like this fool old man. Chris Steyn (15:58.367)Thank you. That was Mr. Jabulani Khumalo, the real founder of MKP. Speaking to BizNews, I'm Chris Steyn. Thank you, Jabulani Khumalo (16:07.853)Thank you so much, Ma'am.

Jabulani Khumalo: Arrest the untouchable MKP “thugs”!

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